Ron Paul Radicals At It Again In OKlahoma
Tulsa Area Republicans Restoring the Republic
Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) will appear on Montana's presidential ballot as the Constitution Party's candidate, according to FiveThirtyEight.com.
The libertarian-minded Paul, who campaigned the GOP nomination, said that he wouldn't play an active role in Montana but also wouldn't object to the Constitution Party of Montana tapping him as its nominee.
Paul received more than a fifth of the support of Republicans in Montana's June primary, which was won by John McCain.
The state Republican Party also held a caucus in February. Paul came in second place, behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R). McCain placed third.
McCain was tied with Democrat Barack Obama in the latest Rasmussen poll of the state, which was conducted in late July.
Well, I got my Ron Paul DVD for Delegates in the mail today. If you have not heard about it, here is their site - http://www.dvds4delegates.com/
It comes it a well-produced very official looking case with the DVD called “On the Road to Minneapolis – Saint Paul: Republican National Convention.” It is packaged to look like it is from the RNC and contains “very important information for RNC Delegate and Alternatives.” So of course, I immediate popped this in my DVD player to watch. You have to watch for 20 minutes before you know it has anything to do with Ron Paul, although you get suspicion pretty quick. The first 20 minutes is a History Channel/Ken Burns like summary of the Conservative movement with focus on Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. Then it goes into a 110 minutes of a propagandaish type of case of how Ron Paul is the best thing since Reagan and how we (GOP delegates) are irresponsible to not all vote for and nominate Ron Paul at the Convention in St. Paul.
Obviously, I think these attempts will be futile but it will be something to watch to see if the...
"Welcome to the National DVDs for Delegates Project
McCain is NOT an Automatic Nominee!"
"We Will Not Quit !"
"We Can Still Win the GOP Nomination - This Project Will Continue Through the End"
"Fact 1: The convention can still nominate Dr. Paul for the Presidency—even with the “Official Campaign Ending.”"
"But the Fact Remains: There is no law preventing his nomination at that convention, even with the campaign organization closing. We checked with our lawyers. Our chief lawyer was the actual Commissioner and Chair of the Federal Election Commission—he resigned in 2006, so it seems reasonable to trust their judgment on this question."
"Fact 2: There is no law requiring Delegates to vote for the candidate they are “bound” to."
"They've done it again.
Today I received another DVD, this time REALLY looking official, saying that it included "Convention Rules, Delegate Facts & Convention History, Your Responsibilities Explained, also Party Gatherings, Local Hot Spots & Platform Construction."
The first part was C-span's coverage of the construction at the Excel Center, then a segment from Wolfe Blitzer, then right into a video from therealmccain.com
The cover really looked official, with high quality graphics.
"Nothing could be farther from the truth. The only coalition we have is the Republican Party. The primary race is over, McCain won and we will support the party and our nominee."- Mike Ford
"Any individual who is supporting these tactics is not representative of either the Official Mike Huckabee campaign staff or the Unofficial Mike Huckabee grassroots staff. We are dedicated to supporting Mike in his newest endeavors, which includes electing Republicans this fall, particularly John McCain."- Scott Pruitt
Bates is also heard, as a weekly guest, on a local radio talk show on KFAQ 1170.
According to Mr. Bates, this blog was instrumental in the success of the Non-Ron Paulers by having Exposed what they're secretly up to. Someone took it upon themself to pass out a flyer with a list of names on them which were found on this blog. Good going whoever you are and it was our honor to be of service to you and help with your great success!
APRIL 16, 2008
There's something more than meets the eye about these Ron Paul Revolutionaries
BY MICHAEL D. BATES
An energetic movement of idealistic young people seeks to make their candidate the Republican nominee for president. They aren't deterred by the fact that he has only managed to win about five percent of the vote and a dozen delegates in the primaries so far.
They have a plan for victory at the Republican National Convention, a plan that includes Oklahoma's May 3 Republican state convention as a crucial battle. The prospect has party officials worried.
Some of his overenthusiastic supporters have vandalized public property with graffiti and flooded online polls in support of their man. (Other supporters claim that his enemies are stenciling his name on bridge abutments to discredit him.)
Their habit of using search engines to find and flood every blog entry and Internet forum thread invoking their candidate's name led Oklahoma City blogger Charles G. Hill of dustbury.com to invent a code name for him: "Pon Farr," a Star Trek reference to the Vulcan mating season that aptly captures the nerdy passion of the candidate's followers.
Their zeal has earned them a plethora of nicknames from their detractors: Ronulans, Paulbots, Paultards. They call themselves the Ron Paul Revolution, but one thing you can't call them is a bunch of quitters.
The Texas Congressman and obstetrician is the original "Dr. No," often the lone vote against bills that he believes violate the limits that the Constitution places on the powers of the Federal Government. But it's his position against American military involvement in Iraq that seems to motivate much of his youthful support base.
Paul was the 1988 presidential nominee of the Libertarian Party, but he is seeking the Republican nomination this year. His supporters believe they can compensate for his poor primary showing with superior organization.
Conventional wisdom says that Arizona Sen. John McCain has the Republican presidential nomination sewn up. CNN's delegate count puts McCain at more than 1300 delegates, more than enough for a majority on the first ballot at the convention. All of his rivals have suspended their campaigns.
Not since 1976, when Gov. Ronald Reagan nearly defeated incumbent Pres. Gerald Ford, has the nomination been in doubt when the convention was called to order. Traditionally, since nothing of substance has to be decided, congressional district and state conventions send longtime volunteers and faithful donors to the national convention as a reward for their service to the party.
These delegates are wined and dined by corporate sponsors. The convention program is designed mainly as an infomercial for the party, using free network airtime to spotlight the presidential nominee, candidates in key Senate races, and rising-star governors. Delegates get a chance to be up close and personal with the political and media celebrities they watch on Fox News.
I was a delegate in 2004, and it was great fun. But the actual business of the convention -- choosing nominees for president and vice president, voting on a platform, and establishing rules to govern the Republican Party for the next four years -- was treated as a mere formality.
But all that is grounded in tradition, and nothing in the party rules says those traditions have to be followed.
Here in Oklahoma, Paul won about 3% of the statewide primary vote. McCain finished first, winning statewide and in three congressional districts, entitling him to 32 convention delegates. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee won the 1st and 2nd Districts; he gets six national delegates.
State law and state party rules bind delegates to vote for the choice of the primary voters on the first ballot, but they don't require that the delegates have to be supporters of the candidate to whom they're bound. If Huckabee releases his delegates before the convention, as expected, those delegates will be free to vote for whomever they will.
Paul's supporters have captured five of the 15 delegate seats that were filled at Oklahoma's congressional district conventions -- three belonging to McCain and two to Huckabee. They won seven of the 15 alternate positions -- six of McCain's and one of Huckabee's. They managed this by getting their people to the district conventions and working the voting system to their advantage.
They also managed it with a certain amount of stealth. At the 1st District convention in Tulsa on April 5, a dozen or so ran for delegate. In their speeches, they never mentioned their support for Ron Paul, and they stayed away from Paul's distinctive positions. In particular, there were no mentions of the war in Iraq. They tried to come across as enthusiastic young Reaganauts, emphasizing issues held in common with mainstream conservatives.
But an anonymous flyer outed them, based on a list of the Oklahoma Ron Paul meet-up group found on ronpaulexposed.blogspot.com.
And so the Ron Paul Revolution came away from the 1st District convention empty-handed. Long-time Republicans turned their people out and held a 60-40 advantage over the newcomers. This majority voted for the candidates they knew from years of party involvement.
Instant runoff voting--in use since the 2000 1st District Convention (at my encouragement)--ensured that whichever side held the majority would prevail.
I oversaw the tallying of the votes, in which many of the Paul people participated. While they were disappointed in the outcome, they seemed satisfied that the process was fair.
Paul's fans still have hopes of winning the state's 23 at-large delegates at the May 3 state convention, to be held at the Renaissance Hotel in Tulsa. The state party's executive committee (of which I am a member) will nominate a slate of at-large delegates and alternates.
Traditionally, these slates are elected by acclamation, but that tradition can be overturned by the will of the majority and another slate elected.
The Paul supporters may also try to win Oklahoma's two open seats on the Republican National Committee. That would not only give them two more national convention delegates but two places on the party's governing body for the next four years.
If similar efforts in other states give Paul a majority of national delegates, a simple rule change could unbind all delegates from voting according to primary results, clearing the way for Paul's nomination.
Even control of a handful of state delegations would give Paul considerable leverage over the proceedings, including the choice of a vice presidential running mate and the rules that will govern the 2012 nomination process.
The machine against which the Paulinistas rage is made up of people who were insurgents themselves once upon a time. Many members of the current GOP "establishment"--the activists who hold party offices, attend caucuses, conventions, and the monthly meetings of various Republican clubs, and provide a volunteer base for Republican campaigns--came into the party as Reagan supporters in the mid to late '70s, as Christian Coalition-trained activists in the late '80s, or as talk radio fans in the early '90s.
These pro-military, pro-gun-rights, pro-life, and pro-tax-cut conservatives wanted to do away with business as usual in Washington, and after some nasty battles at county, district, and state conventions, they displaced a previous establishment that had been content to offer cut-rate versions of liberal Democratic policies and to languish as a permanent political minority.
The current party leadership can hardly be called mushy moderates. In 2004, when wealthy Republican donors backed Oklahoma City Mayor Kirk Humphreys' campaign for U. S. Senate, grassroots conservatives lined up to support Tom Coburn, helping him to an overwhelming primary victory.
Oklahoma's party activists continue to hold to conservative views across the board on fiscal, social, constitutional, foreign policy, and border security issues.
The old-timers welcome the newcomers' support for a smaller Federal government and lower taxes, but they're wary that Ron Paul's supporters, some of them ponytailed and pierced, may tilt the balance in the party against social conservatism.
Their biggest policy dispute involves the Global War on Terror. To long-time Republicans, Ron Paul's "simple, humble foreign policy" looks like naïve appeasement of an aggressive religious ideology that seeks to destroy our way of life.
If nothing else, the Ron Paul insurgency has forced traditional conservatives, apathetic after years of tranquil conventions, to re-engage with the political process.
This year's Republican National Convention could rival the Democrats' Clinton/Obama clash for drama and conflict. What happens on May 3 here in Tulsa will give us an early glimpse of what could happen in September in St. Paul.
"As the convention opened on Saturday, delegates cheered as former presidential hopeful Mitt Romney urged support for McCain - but later in the day Paul got even louder applause as he delivered his message of individual freedom and fiscal responsibility.
Romney, who trounced all other Republican contenders by getting 52 percent in Nevada's precinct straw polls, said his job now is to make sure McCain wins the presidency. In the January straw polling, McCain and Paul split a quarter of the votes."
Blogmaster: Have a great day, while thinking of the fact that a state GOP managed to get a self-conflicting platform put together which does away with supporting any allies or spying capabilities. Word has it that they also killed a plank that would have supported the Fair Tax, which enjoys the support of both of the state's Senators and 4 of their 5 Congressmen. Apparently, they don't want the IRS, but they also don't want the Fair Tax!
I forgot to mention to you that they also succeeded in inserting a plank to oppose all foreign aid. Here's what it says, verbatim:
"6. We oppose any transfer of wealth from the US taxpayers to any foreign governments, usually referred to as foreign aid." Page 18
That's in direct conflict with this, which is right above it:
"2. We should support Israel politically, economically, geographically and militarily." Page 18
...and, I would say that it's also in direct conflict, with this one, which is below it:
"10. We support policies that protect all U.S. allies." Page 19
...and of course there's this lovely gem from page 20:
"11. We affirm the other provisions enumerated in the Bill of Rights, including the right to due process and freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, nor should private property be taken for public use without just compensation. Therefore, we oppose the Patriot Act and call for its repeal."
"...we can control some states and unbind our delegates at the state conventions."
We might have to do this despite Ron Paul.He has to behave to the GOP Party line, we don't.
The proof is you reading the election process. Popular votes in truth dont matter, its the delegates votes that count.
Today in Saint Charles County Missouri, the largest Republican County caucus in the state 111 of a possible 137 Delegates were elected for Ron Paul. The St. Charles Caucus was a landslide turnout for Ron Paul. The Republican Platform was amended to oppose the Patriot Act, The Iraq war, the Federal Reserve, Fiat Currency, the Global American Empire, the income Tax, Estate Tax, McCain Fiengold, the National ID Card, The Real ID Act of 2005 and much much more. This is a prime example.
you do not understand the process. Getting people to cast the vote in states is one thing, but the delegates are what count and they are not necessarily holding allegiance to McCain. Before you laugh, go get an education you silly little man.
its not that we are stealing. Its the election has already been stolen through VOTE RIGGING. Also we don't need to steal the rep seat. McCain has so much dirt on him he will be laughed out of the republican party. John McCain stands about a snow balls chance in hell of winning.
Also there won't be another oportunity to save this country if we don't do something drastic NOW.
LETS DO THIS !!! ITS DO OR DIE TIME. WE MUST NOT ALLOW ANOTHER WARMONGER TO BE PRESIDENT... ALL THE INNOCENT BLOOD WILL BE ON OUR HANDS IF WE FAIL...
Yes we will.You can be sure about that.We will bring down the Neocons.
We are following the rules of the GOP in whatever we do. It's legal and moral by all means.
UTAH CAUCUSES Tuesday March 25th 7pmIf you are a republican in Utah find out where your caucus will be and become a delegate. The vote in Feb did not pick delegates.
I am a Ron Paul Delegate. At my convention there were 20 slots open for delegates. Only 5 people showed up and all were Ron Paul supporters. That gave us all 20 slots because we each get 4 votes at county convention. Thats all it takes people.
We picked up a fair number of county delegates in Kentucky. Let's keep going as hard as we can and see what happens! :)
My friends have plans. My enemies have plans. That's obvious. My friends' plans are loyalty to America and its constitution. On that basis, Paul is the man. My enemies' plan is: discourage people from having HOPE in Paul, so that even though that have faith in America, they will vote a 'lesser of two evils'. That is my ENEMIES' plan, that I should ABANDON HOPE, and vote for the least evil enemy. My answer: No. I will not abandon hope and loyalty, and FOLLOW THE PLAN OF MY ENEMY
No, actually many of the delegates actually can't stand McCain. Fact. they would prefer someone else. McCain has A LOT of enemies in the party.
Freedom is worth the try.
ALL delegates can decide to switch their votes to the only real conservative candidate
We stand a good chance of having RP delegates from Montana dominate our state convention. Romney took the caucus, but now that he's dropped out RP's second place win puts him in first place in Montana. We intend to make RP heard at the convention.
Become a delegate for Ron Paul! It is the only way he will win.
shane - go to the links he said to go to and read them. he is absolutely correct. delegates CONTROL the process.
dr. paul CAN win if all delegates and soon to be delegates know the rnc stuff inside out and roberts rules of order. that's how we win! and we will.
excellent info and educating all now and future delegates we WILL win this!
RON PAUL WILL WIN 2008 presidential! Its up to us.
Agree the delegation process is the key to win the nomination for RP in September.
Get Ron Paul Nominated by:Become a delegate (of Other candidates, or if u r already delegate of other candidates),Vote for Ron Paul in the Convention in November!Because Ron Paul delegates are being restricted to vote!That is how we bypass this type of bias and illegal filtering!Read ronpaulchat(.)net/drpaulwillwin(.)htmlAct now before its too late!
Republican convention is September, not November. Elect delgates for Ron Paul. Any registered voter can be delegate. Pleasse, be a delegate candidate.
"We Only Have One Shot At This!" - Debbie Hopper, RPCC Assistant Campaign Manager
"We Only Have One Shot At This!" - Debbie Hopper, RPCC Assistant Campaign Manager
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The only way for Ron Paul to become President is if he gets the GOP nomination; The only way for Ron Paul to get the GOP nomination is if we become delegates. As delegates, we'll be voting to pick the GOP nominee just like the electors in the electoral college vote to pick the President; Delegates determine and decide who the GOP nominee is—it's that critical! There hasn't been a brokered convention for more than 60 years! And the good news is that Ron Paul doesn't have to win a single state to get the GOP nomination; He just needs to win the delegates! So your delegate vote will count that much more; In other words, Ron Paul can secure the GOP nomination with your vote!You typically start at your precinct (district) convention as a delegate and work your way up to state, and finally, the RNC; But it may even be as easy as calling your Secretary of State Elections Division, signing some forms and getting signatures! Ron Paul supporters will walk through rain, snow, ice, fire, hazardous waste for this revolution so performing the aforementioned will be a cakewalk. The GOP nomination will ultimately be decided at the Republican National Convention which will take place in St. Paul, Minnesota. September 1-4, 2008. Please watch the video below and peruse the instructions on how to become a delegate for Ron Paul. Afterwards, get together with your family, friends, local Meetup groups (ronpaul.meetup.com) to discuss and organize how to flood your conventions with Ron Paul delegates.
If we don't become delegates, then Ron Paul will not get the GOP nomination. If Ron Paul doesn't get the GOP nomination, then the Ron Paul Revolution is OVER. Don't let this happen: Become a Delegate!
Fellow patriots, this battle is far from being over. In fact, it has just begun. Last night was nothing more than a “beauty pageant.” Getting delegates is what counts.Yes, of course, If I only receive 22,673 votes out of 474,610 (4.77%) votes, I would call it a “beauty pageant” as well.
Over the next couple of months local Republican Unit Committees around the state
will hold “canvasses” or “mass meetings” in order to elect delegates to attend
the Republican National Convention in September.
Each CD in Virginia is made up of various Republican Unit Committees. These committees will elect delegates to attend the district convention. At the district convention the delegates will select three delegates and three alternates to attend the September Republican National Convention in Minnesota.
We need to get as many Ron Paul supporters as we can to attend the Unit Committe [sic] meetings and vote for themselves and other Ron Paul supporters so they can attend the district convention — where we will then vote on our three Ron Paul supporters that paid the money to be a delegate to the national convention.
This is our chance to TAKE OVER the Republican Party in Virginia and return it to its core values and strict adherence to the Constitution.
March 05, 2008
GOP Precinct Convention Packed with Ron Paul Truthers
Went to my first GOP precinct convention last night. I think I was one of 3 attendees who wasn't a dyed-in-the-wool Ron Paul truther.
Tried to talk some sense to them, but it was to no avail...
The precinct convention passed resolutions calling for a new round of congressional hearings on "the truth about September 11," an immediate end to our military activities in Iraq and Afghanistan (and everywhere else in the world) and abolition of the Federal Reserve.
They also elected a hardcore Ron Paul truther to be our precinct's delegate to the state convention.
No word yet on whether this was an isolated thing or a broader phenomenon.
From the comments section:
Similar thing happened in my area. (Gregg County Texas) When I got there, one lady saw me coming in and asked if I was there to caucus. She told me that there wasn't a Republican caucus in this location. I am glad I didn't listen to her, unfortunately others may have. When I got in, guess what, she was with a group of 5, very loud Paul supporters (three others of us were not Paul supporters).. they pretty much dominated the entire event and quickly voted one of their own as chair. That person pretty much moved everything to a quck vote, including a party resolution condemning the Iraq war, to stop the war on drugs, to eliminate the IRS, and to condemn the TTC (they didn't care Paul earmarked money for it.) It was a five minute waste of time. From what I've heard, other areas had the same issue. A couple of Paul supporters in each dominating the whole process. Luckily McCain has over 50% of the popular. Reading DailyPaul and RonPaulForums, they are trying to still win the nomination by stacking the conventions. They are acting like brownshirt leftists. They don't care that 95% of voters reject them, they somehow feel obligated to the nomination.MatthewN 03.05.08 - 10:36 am
wasn't isolated....except for the 911 stuff, we paul supporters TOOK over our precinct convention in austin....ended up passing a bunch of resolutions that are part of his platform....gold standard, no acts of war without declaring war, etc.aaron 03.05.08 - 10:23 am
honestly, don't blame other ppl for your mistake. If you had taken more time to educate yourself about the process, you should have asked a campaign official who identify the precinct judge and asked that person directly about the precinct convention directly.btw, the answer you got was not false. There is no republican caucuse in texas. It is officially termed precinct convention by the laws of texas. Don't blame a truther for following the law.JR from Texas 03.05.08 - 11:48 am
The CINC wrote:There is no way on God’s green Earth he is going to win the GOPIt’s call the Ron Paul REVOLUTION... now why in the hell do you think they would call it a REVOLUTION... if the were not ACTUALLY going to be some kind of revolution?Ron Paul supporters are FAR more active than ANY McCain supporters... the plan all along was to infiltrate the delegate process.I am sure there are MORE plans as well.
nomination. Even if McCain were to somehow dissappear (which he won’t as he
requested secret service protection as of late) he would still have to deal with
Mitt Romney continuing his campaign and possibly Guliani jumping back into the
race. This wouldn’t be good for the GOP as they would be in more of a mess than
the Democrats as the fighting between Clinton and Obama continues.If RP
seriously wants to remain in the POTUS race, he has to leave the GOP.