Showing posts with label Minnesota. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Minnesota. Show all posts

Sunday, August 24, 2008

DVDs being sent to all roughly 4,600 Delegates and Alternates asking them to vote for Ron Paul!


UNBELIEVABLE! Unless you've been to this blog before - if so, you may have expected this kind of thing! These people are actually going to make a spectacle of our convention, which can only help the Obama/Biden ticket!

A delegate from Arkansas describes his recent delivery of the DVD like this:
Well, I got my Ron Paul DVD for Delegates in the mail today. If you have not heard about it, here is their site - http://www.dvds4delegates.com/

It comes it a well-produced very official looking case with the DVD called “On the Road to Minneapolis – Saint Paul: Republican National Convention.” It is packaged to look like it is from the RNC and contains “very important information for RNC Delegate and Alternatives.” So of course, I immediate popped this in my DVD player to watch. You have to watch for 20 minutes before you know it has anything to do with Ron Paul, although you get suspicion pretty quick. The first 20 minutes is a History Channel/Ken Burns like summary of the Conservative movement with focus on Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. Then it goes into a 110 minutes of a propagandaish type of case of how Ron Paul is the best thing since Reagan and how we (GOP delegates) are irresponsible to not all vote for and nominate Ron Paul at the Convention in St. Paul.

Obviously, I think these attempts will be futile but it will be something to watch to see if the...

THESE PEOPLE ARE SERIOUS! Here are a few quotes from the website!
"Welcome to the National DVDs for Delegates Project
McCain is NOT an Automatic Nominee!"
"We Will Not Quit !"
"We Can Still Win the GOP Nomination - This Project Will Continue Through the End"
"Fact 1: The convention can still nominate Dr. Paul for the Presidency—even with the “Official Campaign Ending.”"
"But the Fact Remains: There is no law preventing his nomination at that convention, even with the campaign organization closing. We checked with our lawyers. Our chief lawyer was the actual Commissioner and Chair of the Federal Election Commission—he resigned in 2006, so it seems reasonable to trust their judgment on this question."
"Fact 2: There is no law requiring Delegates to vote for the candidate they are “bound” to."

This is something that the Alaska Ron Paul group had already done for their state convention. http://www.ronpauldelegates.info/

The real shame of this is that Ron Paul should be stating loudly and clearly to these people that he does not approve of them using his name to bring ridicule to the party's convention. Does he not understand the point of having a party? Of course most of us did not get the candidate that we wanted, but it's time to act like adults and work with reality. If we don't coalesce behind Sen. McCain, at this point, then we are only helping the Obama/Biden ticket.

Here's another graphic from the site that claims that McCain still hasn't received enough delegates to win the nomination:













**UPDATE** Aug. 28, 5:00pm - A 2nd DVD sent out which includes a video from http://therealmccain.com/
This just in from a Tennessee Delegate:

"They've done it again.

Today I received another DVD, this time REALLY looking official, saying that it included "Convention Rules, Delegate Facts & Convention History, Your Responsibilities Explained, also Party Gatherings, Local Hot Spots & Platform Construction."

The first part was C-span's coverage of the construction at the Excel Center, then a segment from Wolfe Blitzer, then right into a video from therealmccain.com

The cover really looked official, with high quality graphics.

I'm ticked."

Thursday, May 1, 2008

Steve Parent is a Democrat who is assisting Paul's supporters to overthrow the GOP

FYI- Steve Parent is a Democrat who is assisting Paul's supporters to overthrow the GOP...

Publisher's note: This was originally posted on a Ron Paul support website. Dr. Parent was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and well educated in the nomination process. He left the party to support Dr. Paul. While this is clearly an article that supports Ron Paul for President, it is also important information that most of us are unaware of - because Republican contests rarely get to this stage.

Written by Dr. Steve Parent
Wednesday, 12 March 2008

Even if you support McCain for President, you should be aware of this process. These are the facts of the GOP nomination process.
Our founding fathers set the system up like this
to assure that there would not have false or fraudulent support for a candidate thus forcing THE PEOPLE to become involved in the election process and to show actual support for thier candidate.
They wanted to make sure they would protect us from VOTE FRAUD and to make sure that a candidate did not win a beauty contest but instead win an election.
Any candidate and their supporters can do exactly what we are doing if they chose to do so and i am sure from the reports we have received that Mccain does not have real support or he would have the delegates he needs registered as delegates to vote for him in the up coming convention.
If you doubt my post go and research it yourself PLEASE here :
http://www.gop.com/images/2008_Call_FINAL.pdf

I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry. I am going to go into some depth of how this all works so read and then read again if you need to.
Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind thier delegates that are bound by state rules? Did you know that delegates can actually overturn and previous vote? Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process?
The main stream media is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so i will tell you to stop getting your info from them.
I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS: Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.
First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. So if a candiate like Mccain now has 906 delegates now but he doesn't reach 1191 WHICH HE WILL NOT most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 906 for Mccain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.
Normally, Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner because someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the Ron Paul campaign strategy will work?
When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are
virtual delegates
.
What do I mean by virtual delegates? A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates.
The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll). Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans. In Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.
View the hard count of actaul pledged delegates here : http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/R.phtml
And we have lots of delegates.
Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September:
463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention some of those 463 are Ron Pauls people.
565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please and Mccain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.
383 will be bound through two ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
318 will be bound through three ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
I am not going to list every state and what the break downs are, just do the math from these numbers or look for yourself here: http://www.gop.com/Images/AllStateSummaries.pdf
Bottom line is less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?

So what happens now you ask?
You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. These delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.
This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomintaion untill the convention.
The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008.
So what does this all mean?
This means that all of the people that registered to become a delegate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast thier vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said. Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a deligate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.
Now I assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states, WE DID PICK UP MORE DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes, they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.
Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?
NO THIS IS NOT TRUE - people were just confused on how it actually works.

We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.
Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.
The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.

Blogmaster: 4 days later, Dr. Parent also posted on 16 March a similar posting with even greater detail, including the following:

"...we can control some states and unbind our delegates at the state conventions."

Monday, April 14, 2008

Comments:
We might have to do this despite Ron Paul.He has to behave to the GOP Party line, we don't.
The proof is you reading the election process. Popular votes in truth dont matter, its the delegates votes that count.
Today in Saint Charles County Missouri, the largest Republican County caucus in the state 111 of a possible 137 Delegates were elected for Ron Paul. The St. Charles Caucus was a landslide turnout for Ron Paul. The Republican Platform was amended to oppose the Patriot Act, The Iraq war, the Federal Reserve, Fiat Currency, the Global American Empire, the income Tax, Estate Tax, McCain Fiengold, the National ID Card, The Real ID Act of 2005 and much much more. This is a prime example.
you do not understand the process. Getting people to cast the vote in states is one thing, but the delegates are what count and they are not necessarily holding allegiance to McCain. Before you laugh, go get an education you silly little man.
its not that we are stealing. Its the election has already been stolen through VOTE RIGGING. Also we don't need to steal the rep seat. McCain has so much dirt on him he will be laughed out of the republican party. John McCain stands about a snow balls chance in hell of winning.
Also there won't be another oportunity to save this country if we don't do something drastic NOW.
LETS DO THIS !!! ITS DO OR DIE TIME. WE MUST NOT ALLOW ANOTHER WARMONGER TO BE PRESIDENT... ALL THE INNOCENT BLOOD WILL BE ON OUR HANDS IF WE FAIL...
Yes we will.You can be sure about that.We will bring down the Neocons.
We are following the rules of the GOP in whatever we do. It's legal and moral by all means.
UTAH CAUCUSES Tuesday March 25th 7pmIf you are a republican in Utah find out where your caucus will be and become a delegate. The vote in Feb did not pick delegates.
I am a Ron Paul Delegate. At my convention there were 20 slots open for delegates. Only 5 people showed up and all were Ron Paul supporters. That gave us all 20 slots because we each get 4 votes at county convention. Thats all it takes people.
We picked up a fair number of county delegates in Kentucky. Let's keep going as hard as we can and see what happens! :)
My friends have plans. My enemies have plans. That's obvious. My friends' plans are loyalty to America and its constitution. On that basis, Paul is the man. My enemies' plan is: discourage people from having HOPE in Paul, so that even though that have faith in America, they will vote a 'lesser of two evils'. That is my ENEMIES' plan, that I should ABANDON HOPE, and vote for the least evil enemy. My answer: No. I will not abandon hope and loyalty, and FOLLOW THE PLAN OF MY ENEMY
No, actually many of the delegates actually can't stand McCain. Fact. they would prefer someone else. McCain has A LOT of enemies in the party.
Freedom is worth the try.
ALL delegates can decide to switch their votes to the only real conservative candidate
We stand a good chance of having RP delegates from Montana dominate our state convention. Romney took the caucus, but now that he's dropped out RP's second place win puts him in first place in Montana. We intend to make RP heard at the convention.
Become a delegate for Ron Paul! It is the only way he will win.
shane - go to the links he said to go to and read them. he is absolutely correct. delegates CONTROL the process.
dr. paul CAN win if all delegates and soon to be delegates know the rnc stuff inside out and roberts rules of order. that's how we win! and we will.
excellent info and educating all now and future delegates we WILL win this!
RON PAUL WILL WIN 2008 presidential! Its up to us.
Agree the delegation process is the key to win the nomination for RP in September.
Get Ron Paul Nominated by:Become a delegate (of Other candidates, or if u r already delegate of other candidates),Vote for Ron Paul in the Convention in November!Because Ron Paul delegates are being restricted to vote!That is how we bypass this type of bias and illegal filtering!Read ronpaulchat(.)net/drpaulwillwin(.)htmlAct now before its too late!
Republican convention is September, not November. Elect delgates for Ron Paul. Any registered voter can be delegate. Pleasse, be a delegate candidate.

Thursday, April 10, 2008

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Ron Paul ignores voters, plans to steal convention…

Posted by Timothy Watson on February 13, 2008
From Brian R. Gentry of the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign Committee:

Fellow patriots, this battle is far from being over. In fact, it has just begun. Last night was nothing more than a “beauty pageant.” Getting delegates is what counts.
Yes, of course, If I only receive 22,673 votes out of 474,610 (4.77%) votes, I would call it a “beauty pageant” as well.
It’s amazing that he’s candid about how he feels about Republican voters in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Over the next couple of months local Republican Unit Committees around the state
will hold “canvasses” or “mass meetings” in order to elect delegates to attend
the Republican National Convention in September.
Each CD in Virginia is made up of various Republican Unit Committees. These committees will elect delegates to attend the district convention. At the district convention the delegates will select three delegates and three alternates to attend the September Republican National Convention in Minnesota.
We need to get as many Ron Paul supporters as we can to attend the Unit Committe [sic] meetings and vote for themselves and other Ron Paul supporters so they can attend the district convention — where we will then vote on our three Ron Paul supporters that paid the money to be a delegate to the national convention.
This is our chance to TAKE OVER the Republican Party in Virginia and return it to its core values and strict adherence to the Constitution.