Showing posts with label straw poll. Show all posts
Showing posts with label straw poll. Show all posts

Friday, May 2, 2008

Nevada - GOP Convention Process Defended - Video and more detailed story included.

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/18352359.html
From KOLO TV News Channel 8
Reno, Nevada
Video and more detailed story included. The following is an excerpt from the end of the story:

"As the convention opened on Saturday, delegates cheered as former presidential hopeful Mitt Romney urged support for McCain - but later in the day Paul got even louder applause as he delivered his message of individual freedom and fiscal responsibility.

Romney, who trounced all other Republican contenders by getting 52 percent in Nevada's precinct straw polls, said his job now is to make sure McCain wins the presidency. In the January straw polling, McCain and Paul split a quarter of the votes."

Thursday, May 1, 2008

Steve Parent is a Democrat who is assisting Paul's supporters to overthrow the GOP

FYI- Steve Parent is a Democrat who is assisting Paul's supporters to overthrow the GOP...

Publisher's note: This was originally posted on a Ron Paul support website. Dr. Parent was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and well educated in the nomination process. He left the party to support Dr. Paul. While this is clearly an article that supports Ron Paul for President, it is also important information that most of us are unaware of - because Republican contests rarely get to this stage.

Written by Dr. Steve Parent
Wednesday, 12 March 2008

Even if you support McCain for President, you should be aware of this process. These are the facts of the GOP nomination process.
Our founding fathers set the system up like this
to assure that there would not have false or fraudulent support for a candidate thus forcing THE PEOPLE to become involved in the election process and to show actual support for thier candidate.
They wanted to make sure they would protect us from VOTE FRAUD and to make sure that a candidate did not win a beauty contest but instead win an election.
Any candidate and their supporters can do exactly what we are doing if they chose to do so and i am sure from the reports we have received that Mccain does not have real support or he would have the delegates he needs registered as delegates to vote for him in the up coming convention.
If you doubt my post go and research it yourself PLEASE here :
http://www.gop.com/images/2008_Call_FINAL.pdf

I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry. I am going to go into some depth of how this all works so read and then read again if you need to.
Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind thier delegates that are bound by state rules? Did you know that delegates can actually overturn and previous vote? Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process?
The main stream media is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so i will tell you to stop getting your info from them.
I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS: Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.
First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. So if a candiate like Mccain now has 906 delegates now but he doesn't reach 1191 WHICH HE WILL NOT most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 906 for Mccain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.
Normally, Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner because someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the Ron Paul campaign strategy will work?
When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are
virtual delegates
.
What do I mean by virtual delegates? A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates.
The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll). Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans. In Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.
View the hard count of actaul pledged delegates here : http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/R.phtml
And we have lots of delegates.
Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September:
463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention some of those 463 are Ron Pauls people.
565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please and Mccain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.
383 will be bound through two ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
318 will be bound through three ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
I am not going to list every state and what the break downs are, just do the math from these numbers or look for yourself here: http://www.gop.com/Images/AllStateSummaries.pdf
Bottom line is less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?

So what happens now you ask?
You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. These delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.
This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomintaion untill the convention.
The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008.
So what does this all mean?
This means that all of the people that registered to become a delegate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast thier vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said. Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a deligate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.
Now I assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states, WE DID PICK UP MORE DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes, they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.
Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?
NO THIS IS NOT TRUE - people were just confused on how it actually works.

We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.
Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.
The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.

Blogmaster: 4 days later, Dr. Parent also posted on 16 March a similar posting with even greater detail, including the following:

"...we can control some states and unbind our delegates at the state conventions."

Friday, April 11, 2008

www.ronpaulwarroom.com

« “Know thine enemy better than one knows thyself”-Sun Tzu from The Art of War: A Literary Primer for Understanding the NWO Agenda Home A message to Amy K. »
Delegation Update why we need keep building
By jtucker70 April 11, 2008

I have received alot email why I am stressing so much for everyone get a delegate position or alternate.
Well the primary’s are not over for one and McCain is just presumptive nominee. I cant stress that enough. Has of right now McCain only has 814 Delegates Bound to him on first ballot, only 364 Bound on second Ballot and 187 Bound to third ballot. There are about 156 more delegates in remaining primary’s.
I don’t know where MSM gets their numbers but they also show Ron Paul with only 14 delegates. Which is way incorrect. Has about 48 Bound Delegates and about 596 delegates been chossen for National Convention that say they are Ron Paul supporters.
Has we take over conventions we have big voice in National Convention and we could really win it their……Along the way putting in our platform.
And if we could force a fourth Ballot it would really say something that we have a voice. Its just hard for me to imagine that Ron Paul wins majority straw polls and big slide in CD14 and yet media spins he has no support.
I just want mention all those that say hey but people voted and they want McCain.
Rember alot the states Ron Paul did poor in allowed Dem’s and others to vote not to mention hacking of voting machines the changing of the rules after Ron Paul won LA. to give it to Huckabee/McCain.
I just think its so important that we try with all our efforts to be delegates and alternates and find the delegates and get them to vote our way and if we are a bound delegate option to be uncommitted so free vote whom ever also it was proposed to request to not pledge the delegates in Texas has just saying there no need since McCain is presumptive Nominee thats a another good position. Just doing anything to stop McCain getting 1191 votes.
Anyone wanting information on rules or application for national Delegate contact me at jtucker70@yahoo.com
Reference 2008 Presidential RNC Voting Results,RNC copy of all States Election rules delegation allotment’s.

James Tucker
Please repost to any media that get us going stronger


Comments:

Jo Says: April 11th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
JAMES TUCKER KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!! I think you are right on everything, except there are more delegates still available than you mentioned. I will post a list of all the remaining states that there are and how many delegates each state has to it…