Nevada - GOP Convention Process Defended - Video and more detailed story included.

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/18352359.html
From KOLO TV News Channel 8
Reno, Nevada
Video and more detailed story included. The following is an excerpt from the end of the story:

"As the convention opened on Saturday, delegates cheered as former presidential hopeful Mitt Romney urged support for McCain - but later in the day Paul got even louder applause as he delivered his message of individual freedom and fiscal responsibility.

Romney, who trounced all other Republican contenders by getting 52 percent in Nevada's precinct straw polls, said his job now is to make sure McCain wins the presidency. In the January straw polling, McCain and Paul split a quarter of the votes."

Nevada GOP Leaves Their State Convention

Nev. GOP recesses state convention, angering Paul supporters

RENO, Nev. (AP) -- Outmaneuvered by raucous Ron Paul supporters, Nevada Republican Party leaders abruptly shut down their state convention and now must resume the event to complete a list of 31 delegates to the GOP national convention.

Outnumbered supporters of expected Republican presidential nominee John McCain faced off Saturday against well-organized Paul support ers. A large share of the more than 1,300 state convention delegates enabled Paul supporters to get a rule change positioning them for more national convention delegate slots than expected.

"I've seen factions walk out. I've never seen a party walk out," said Jeff Greenspan, regional coordinator for the Paul campaign.

Delegates cheered earlier in the day as former presidential hopeful Mitt Romney urged support for McCain. Later, though, Paul got even louder applause as he delivered his message of individual freedom and fiscal responsibility.

State Sen. Bob Beers, the convention chairman, was booed loudly as he called for a recess Saturday evening. He said that the party's rental contract for a big meeting room at a Reno hotel-casino had expired and there was too much work left to complete.

State GOP Chairwoman Sue Lowden said the rules change wasn't anticipated. She denied any anti-Paul bias, saying expected slates of national delegates were prepared through a fair and open process by the convention's nominations committee and the party thought the convention would accept them.

Steve Parent is a Democrat who is assisting Paul's supporters to overthrow the GOP

FYI- Steve Parent is a Democrat who is assisting Paul's supporters to overthrow the GOP...

Publisher's note: This was originally posted on a Ron Paul support website. Dr. Parent was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and well educated in the nomination process. He left the party to support Dr. Paul. While this is clearly an article that supports Ron Paul for President, it is also important information that most of us are unaware of - because Republican contests rarely get to this stage.

Written by Dr. Steve Parent
Wednesday, 12 March 2008

Even if you support McCain for President, you should be aware of this process. These are the facts of the GOP nomination process.
Our founding fathers set the system up like this to assure that there would not have false or fraudulent support for a candidate thus forcing THE PEOPLE to become involved in the election process and to show actual support for thier candidate.
They wanted to make sure they would protect us from VOTE FRAUD and to make sure that a candidate did not win a beauty contest but instead win an election.
Any candidate and their supporters can do exactly what we are doing if they chose to do so and i am sure from the reports we have received that Mccain does not have real support or he would have the delegates he needs registered as delegates to vote for him in the up coming convention.
If you doubt my post go and research it yourself PLEASE here :
http://www.gop.com/images/2008_Call_FINAL.pdf
I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry. I am going to go into some depth of how this all works so read and then read again if you need to.
Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind thier delegates that are bound by state rules? Did you know that delegates can actually overturn and previous vote? Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process?
The main stream media is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so i will tell you to stop getting your info from them.
I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS: Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.
First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. So if a candiate like Mccain now has 906 delegates now but he doesn't reach 1191 WHICH HE WILL NOT most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 906 for Mccain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.
Normally, Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner because someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the Ron Paul campaign strategy will work?
When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are
virtual delegates.
What do I mean by virtual delegates? A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates.
The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll). Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans. In Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.
View the hard count of actaul pledged delegates here : http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/R.phtml
And we have lots of delegates.
Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September:
463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention some of those 463 are Ron Pauls people.
565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please and Mccain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.
383 will be bound through two ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
318 will be bound through three ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
I am not going to list every state and what the break downs are, just do the math from these numbers or look for yourself here: http://www.gop.com/Images/AllStateSummaries.pdf
Bottom line is less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?

So what happens now you ask?
You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. These delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.
This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomintaion untill the convention.
The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008.
So what does this all mean?
This means that all of the people that registered to become a delegate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast thier vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said. Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a deligate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.
Now I assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states, WE DID PICK UP MORE DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes, they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.
Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?
NO THIS IS NOT TRUE - people were just confused on how it actually works.

We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.
Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.
The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.

Blogmaster: 4 days later, Dr. Parent also posted on 16 March a similar posting with even greater detail, including the following:

"...we can control some states and unbind our delegates at the state conventions."

More proof Paul campaign endorses hijacking GOP

ATTENTION ALL REPUBLICANS:

For those falling for Ron Paul’s coy act about what his supporters are up to, this is from his official campaign site blog, Daily Dose, and Campaign Manager Lew Moore, Field Director Adam de Angeli and Field Director Debbie Hopper.

The National Delegates Will Decide — And We Can Take the Delegates
Can Ron Paul win? Is the battle for the Republican nomination over? Field Coordinator Adam de Angeli provides the answers in this important message, which he asked me to pass along:

“The best way to predict the future is to create it.”
-Peter F. Drucker

Hello Precinct Leaders,

On Tuesday we taped a video featuring campaign manager Lew Moore and national field director Debbie Hopper. The video is available on YouTube. In the video, Lew answers questions submitted by supporters, and Debbie discusses the importance of the Precinct Leader program. Debbie also announces the “Ring for Ron” program, which will be released in the next few days. This improved system will replace our “call a voter in a state with an upcoming election” program within the Precinct Leader system. It will have specific messages targeted for each state, and a far better phone list of identified Ron Paul supporters that we must ensure will vote on their election/caucus date. You will not need to be a registered Precinct Leader to take part in this program, and supporters will be given a particular state to call (as opposed to the program now, where each call goes to a random state within a specified range).

The points that Lew and Debbie emphasize in the video are precisely those we need to focus on right now: turning out at the conventions to win delegates, identifying as many Ron Paul supporters as we can, and keeping our movement together in the face of discouraging results. The Precinct Leader program is our armory: this is our database of volunteers, of supporters, of coordinators, and of results.

Regardless of the mainstream media’s interpretation of recent events, Ron Paul is determined to stay in the presidential race. Dr. Paul must defeat his Congressional opponent in the March 4 primary and must campaign in his district for the time being, but in the meantime there is still much we can do to win Dr. Paul delegates to the Republican National Convention. Although we are well into the primary season, no primary and no caucus, not even in sum, determines the nominee. The nominee is decided at the National Convention, by the delegates chosen from state conventions, from those chosen from district and county conventions. It is tempting to assume the race a “lost cause” and abandon it for simpler pursuits, but there are two very important reasons not to: because the assumption is false, and because the assumption debilitates our movement.

Given poll results, media coverage, and the like, it may be hard to believe that Dr. Paul can still win the nomination. But you must understand that the nomination process is not a fixed procedure governed by the Law of the Primary; the Republican Party is a private organization, free to change its rules at any time. It may not be customary, but it certainly cane be done.

If we turn out for the county conventions as we turned out in the streets, we will decide who goes to the state convention. Likewise, a strong turnout at a state convention gives us the ability not only to elect national delegates but to change the state party rules—to unbind the national delegates, for example. It might be a long shot, but this is no different from two months ago.

A great number of disgusted patriots in the Republican Party will not suffer a nominee who refuses to defend the right to bear arms and to acknowledge the need for a strong border. And deep down, they know that every empire is a setting sun. If we don’t show up at the conventions, we’ll be forgotten. But if we turn out, if we prove where the future of the party lies, other Republicans will first accept and soon believe in us.

The only obstacle, then, is our own determination and confidence. This is why the “we cannot win” attitude is so debilitating.

In Washtenaw county, Michigan, every Ron Paul supporter who showed up to the county convention–including people who had not even been registered members of the Republican Party—was elected as a delegate to the state convention. At a county convention in Alaska, Ron Paul supporters comprised the majority of delegates in attendance, and they not only elected themselves to the state convention, they dramatically altered the local party’s statement of principles and other rules.

If enough of us believe in our movement and stay with it, we will triumph. Now is the time to act. Call your state party, get the deadline for filing to be a national delegate, get the date of the county conventions, learn the rules, and rally your troops. This is our Valley Forge, where the citizen patriots who stay in the fight will emerge well-trained political soldiers.

Any substantial number of Ron Paul delegates to the national convention will advance our cause of restoring the Republican Party, and thus the Republic itself. This restoration is not only desirable, but desperately needed. Scattering ourselves over an assortment of alternative parties, interest groups, and grassroots organizations will not work. We derive strength from unity. And to put it bluntly, we have well-financed enemies who aren’t above posing as friends. Beware the dividers.

So stay with us, keep fighting, and remember, the future is unwritten!

This entry was posted on Thursday, February 21st, 2008 at 11:08 am

Comments:
We might have to do this despite Ron Paul.He has to behave to the GOP Party line, we don't.
The proof is you reading the election process. Popular votes in truth dont matter, its the delegates votes that count.
Today in Saint Charles County Missouri, the largest Republican County caucus in the state 111 of a possible 137 Delegates were elected for Ron Paul. The St. Charles Caucus was a landslide turnout for Ron Paul. The Republican Platform was amended to oppose the Patriot Act, The Iraq war, the Federal Reserve, Fiat Currency, the Global American Empire, the income Tax, Estate Tax, McCain Fiengold, the National ID Card, The Real ID Act of 2005 and much much more. This is a prime example.
you do not understand the process. Getting people to cast the vote in states is one thing, but the delegates are what count and they are not necessarily holding allegiance to McCain. Before you laugh, go get an education you silly little man.
its not that we are stealing. Its the election has already been stolen through VOTE RIGGING. Also we don't need to steal the rep seat. McCain has so much dirt on him he will be laughed out of the republican party. John McCain stands about a snow balls chance in hell of winning.
Also there won't be another oportunity to save this country if we don't do something drastic NOW.
LETS DO THIS !!! ITS DO OR DIE TIME. WE MUST NOT ALLOW ANOTHER WARMONGER TO BE PRESIDENT... ALL THE INNOCENT BLOOD WILL BE ON OUR HANDS IF WE FAIL...
Yes we will.You can be sure about that.We will bring down the Neocons.
We are following the rules of the GOP in whatever we do. It's legal and moral by all means.
UTAH CAUCUSES Tuesday March 25th 7pmIf you are a republican in Utah find out where your caucus will be and become a delegate. The vote in Feb did not pick delegates.
I am a Ron Paul Delegate. At my convention there were 20 slots open for delegates. Only 5 people showed up and all were Ron Paul supporters. That gave us all 20 slots because we each get 4 votes at county convention. Thats all it takes people.
We picked up a fair number of county delegates in Kentucky. Let's keep going as hard as we can and see what happens! :)
My friends have plans. My enemies have plans. That's obvious. My friends' plans are loyalty to America and its constitution. On that basis, Paul is the man. My enemies' plan is: discourage people from having HOPE in Paul, so that even though that have faith in America, they will vote a 'lesser of two evils'. That is my ENEMIES' plan, that I should ABANDON HOPE, and vote for the least evil enemy. My answer: No. I will not abandon hope and loyalty, and FOLLOW THE PLAN OF MY ENEMY
No, actually many of the delegates actually can't stand McCain. Fact. they would prefer someone else. McCain has A LOT of enemies in the party.
Freedom is worth the try.
ALL delegates can decide to switch their votes to the only real conservative candidate
We stand a good chance of having RP delegates from Montana dominate our state convention. Romney took the caucus, but now that he's dropped out RP's second place win puts him in first place in Montana. We intend to make RP heard at the convention.
Become a delegate for Ron Paul! It is the only way he will win.
shane - go to the links he said to go to and read them. he is absolutely correct. delegates CONTROL the process.
dr. paul CAN win if all delegates and soon to be delegates know the rnc stuff inside out and roberts rules of order. that's how we win! and we will.
excellent info and educating all now and future delegates we WILL win this!
RON PAUL WILL WIN 2008 presidential! Its up to us.
Agree the delegation process is the key to win the nomination for RP in September.
Get Ron Paul Nominated by:Become a delegate (of Other candidates, or if u r already delegate of other candidates),Vote for Ron Paul in the Convention in November!Because Ron Paul delegates are being restricted to vote!That is how we bypass this type of bias and illegal filtering!Read ronpaulchat(.)net/drpaulwillwin(.)htmlAct now before its too late!
Republican convention is September, not November. Elect delgates for Ron Paul. Any registered voter can be delegate. Pleasse, be a delegate candidate.

ronpaulforumpa.com

http://www.ronpaulforumpa.com/smf/index.php?topic=342.0

Potential candidates should be aware that these pledges have no legal standing and each delegate can vote for whomever they wish. Delegates can also just not go to the convention if they are not happy with the results of the primary. There are alternate delegate positions just to handle that.

ronpaulforums.com

03-13-2008, 09:59 PM
Zera

Senior Member

Join Date: Feb 2008Posts: 229

Ah... So flooding every county convention would help getting state delegates for Paul... But what about national delegates for the convention?I hope the people don't reveal they're Paul supporters in their speeches. Something like, "I support the GOP platform" or "I just don't want a Democrat in office" would be much better.

Comment from "Rich" on MySpace

Apr 14 2008 8:55 AM



John McCain only has 814 delegates committed on the 1st ballot and only 156 more delegate positions remain up for grabs in which 74 will come from Pennsylvania. The Revolution has just begun here in Pennsylvania.